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Thanks fellas.


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And remember Grindboy, it is named Stony BROOK trail for a reason. Just sayin'. Was tricky in spots during the low-snow-season when I hiked it. Still highly recommend it though. Don't think I'd try to do that for a first 4K though.

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I'm kinda surprised by all the endorsements for Tecumseh. I hiked Tecumseh in September as my first all-season 4K, and it almost ruined the entire pursuit for me. It was just three hours of stairs! And the top is tiny, mostly obscured, and not particularly impressive. There is a little spur trail about 1/3 of the way up that pops you out on one of the ski routes and offers some good views, and I'd say it's about 85% as good as the summit view, making the last 2/3 of the trek up, plus the descent, a mostly moot exercise. Unless you REALLY REALLY like stairs.

My advice would be to choose a supremely awesome hike, or don't go at all. Being your first winter hike, make it good. You can grind out the crappy stuff anytime. But if you want to stay motivated, then do yourself a favor on your first trek and go big!!!

I'm pretty much in the same boat as the OP. I've got 8 all-season 4k's under my belt, with my first official winter ascent looming this weekend. Eyeballing Kinsamans or Liberty/Flume also. But not if it's bad weather. Unless I'm going to have an absolute blast, I'm not going. I think that's an important skill for a solo-hiker.....have a second hobby. I like hiking, and I had a blast on my last winter-ish hike to Pierce and Eisenhower last month. It was gorgeous weather, incredible views, and easy trekking. I absolutely can't wait to have another experience like that. But if it's not sunny this saturday, fk it, I'm going to foxwoods. Even if it's just a short term problem, I don't want my ONLY winter hiking memories to suck.

So my first suggestion would be Pierce WITH Eisenhower. The connecting trail isn't too tough, it's TONS of fun, and offers excellent views almost the entire way. The final ascent and the summit of eisenhower are pretty amazing. When I did it, I ascended the Crawford Path and descended Edmunds. Clinton road was open at the time and the edmunds parking lot had people in it so I was able to bum a ride back to my car. I'm sure the road is closed now which means a 2 mile road walk to complete the loop. Or you could just backtrack the way you came from Eisenhower and re-hike the awesome connecting ridge back to Pierce, returning the way you came via the crawford path.

From what I've read, the Kinsmans and Franconia ridge are magnificent hikes, and I plan to complete one of them myself this weekend, so obviously I strongly recommend those options.

Finally, I would recommend Cannon Mountain. I went from the tram parking lot to the summit via the Kinsman Ridge Trail last November and friggen hated it. The trail is eroded badly, icy mix all over the place, and unforgivingly steep. I still made it up and back in under 4 hours with a stop for lunch. Plus, I'll bet it's way easier in winter time. And the last 1/4 of the ascent is really easy anyway. It's my understanding there are buildings at the summit of the ski area where you can lounge and get a hot drink or a meal. Franconia Ridge should be looking fabulous, so the observation tower on Cannon should make a very nice reward for completing a difficult hike.

There are 48 peaks on "the list". It's a long grind to reach the goal. Don't piss away your motivation by starting out with something mediocre.


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For someone looking to get their feet wet in winter hiking. Tecumseh is a solid option. Given the OPs location. The big T is close. It's a relatively easy bop up a 4k. This has the added benefit of adjusting to heavier pack weights. Little to no exposure. and the stairs are covered if therebis enough snow. You may need to pull out the snow shoes or spikes. You get a view at the top. If it's something he enjoys he can always drive up the road and add on something small to make a day of it.


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You won't hear me saying Tecumseh is a good choice in winter, or any season for that matter. If someone took a stick of dynamite and removed 4 feet from the top everyone who has to do the AMC list should send them a thank you note! :D Either that or close down the trail from the ski side. I hear the other is much nicer and will find out myself eventually.

Personally winter is the only time hiking most of the eastern mountains can actually feel like climbing a mountain and not just walking up a hill. Needing to use some/all the gear I have collected is part of what makes winter hiking exciting and different for me. If I come home from a hike and say I could have done it in bare boots I probably didn't enjoy it very much. Picking a trail that could let you start to get a feel for all that gear, be it snowshoes, spikes, crampons whatever would be a good idea IMO. Not necessarily head up Lions Head right away, but not the easiest trail possible either, and then get more aggressive as your skills progress.

But just about any trail in winter is quiet and scenic and can be tons of fun. Just bring a sled. Even the most boring trails can be tons of fun that way.


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Meh, I'm not really buying this "get your feet wet", "get used to your gear" stuff. I'm not convinced that snowshoeing up to Cannon, Pierce, or Jackson is so tricky that it's necessary to "practice" on a more disappointing peak first. And I'm not seeing why Tecumseh qualifies as "practice" trail anyway. Seems to be as steep and rugged as most anything else out there. If you're going to make the effort, why not reap a satisfying payoff?


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Geez Waterville Valley must be paying all you guys a commission!!! I must have missed the shill volunteer sign up booth when I hiked Mt Tecumseh.

OP - Seems folks here have forgotten what it's like to be a noob. When you're a jaded, grizzly, seasoned mountaineer, it's easy to point the least experienced to the safest spots and feel like you're doing the right thing. But your FIRST, should be something fun, fulfilling, satisfying, and motivating you to continue and do more. Just my two cents, and my own approach to the lists. And that's a lesson I learned the hard way by making Tecumseh my first 4K overall. The only memorable thing about that hike is how unsatisfied I was..

I'm doing my first official winter 4k this weekend too. But have been hiking pretty regularly in various conditions for the last five months. I don't feel like I need any "practice" or acclimation. I've lived in New England for 35 years, winter happens at sea level too. Unless you just moved here last week from Orlando, keeping yourself warm shouldn't be something you need to learn at this juncture of your life.

I have all the right stuff. I'm fit enough to carry it. And I'm smart enough to not challenge the weather. If you feel like any of those are in question for you, then by all means, bore yourself to tears by hiking Tecumseh. But out of the 47 other options, at least 35 of them would be preferable.


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For someone who admittedly has less 4ks under their belt than the OP. (Nevermind winter (0 so far for you)) I'm not sure why you are giving advice here. Free advice is worth what you pay, yours maybe less in this context.

Lets take a look at the stats

Mt. Tecumseh Trail is

2.32m
2228 feet of gain

Huntington ravine trail between The Harvard Cabin Cutoff and the Alpine Garden trail:

1.43m
1968 feet of gain

It's pretty obvious where people should be hiking in winter. Much better views along the Huntington Ravine trail! :roll:

The OP is going solo. (as of now) So people offering advice to head up a safe route is the correct course in my opinion. If he were going with someone else who was willing to show them the ropes so to speak, a harder route could be more appropriate. If not more entertaining. It makes sense that more "experienced" folk wold err on the side of caution here. Heaven forbid they may do things differently after experiencing the conditions themselves. Having experienced what I have. I would for sure send someone up a route that without a doubt gets them a day in the woods and back to their car. You have to walk before you can run and crawl before you can walk.

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On the contrary Gibba, I believe my advice is extra-relevant since I'm in virtually the exact same place as the OP in terms of hiking experience. I feel like as a comparable hiker, I'm uniquely qualified to comment on what would be an epic boring waste of time, and what would be an entertaining challenge. You and GG have been there, done that, and seen it all, so how could your opinion ever be relevant?

You and GG have a distorted view from being so "experienced". You guys have probably done this so much that it probably FEELS like you learned alot over that time. But I suspect that you're just like anyone else and learned 96% of your hiking skills when you were 1 years old and put one foot in front of the of the other for the first time.

The rest of the blanks can be filled in with a simple google search on "winter hiking". It's 2016 and information is everywhere. The jaded wisdom that comes from years of experience just isn't as valuable any more.

And I'm not just picking on you guys. I'll bet if you gave me an hour I could scour the web and find a dozen posts or trip reports from some wanna be mountaineer who thinks he's a hero cause he hiked up washington, but then posts a resentful rant about all the droolers on top wearing flip flops who drove there in their cars. GET OVER YOURSELF!

I mean, what is that "tale of the tape" supposed to even prove Gibba? I see the trickeration you're trying to illustrate, but I got news for you. Most third graders today can do division. Elementary math easily shows which trail is steeper. And even infantile common sense tells you that steeper = harder. This is what I'm talking about. You THINK you have these hyper-developed skills that can only be gained through years of experience. But you don't. You walk uphill. Sometimes its a long trip, so bring a sandwich. Sheesh, easy game.

As long as you are fit enough, and you dress warmly, hydrate, and stay dry, then pretty much anyone should be able to handle ten miles, anywhere in NH.


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