Summit Markers/Signs
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Author:  ksearl [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:57 pm ]
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Dumb question...what's a canister?


Author:  bikehikeskifish [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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A canister is a weather proof device (spaghetti sauce jar, PVC tube capped at both ends, etc.) attached to a summit (usually a tree) which contains a log book and some pencils for visitors to record visits. They may or may not be found on some NEHH peaks or NHHH peaks, usually they are not on trailed peaks, but there may (or may not) be exceptions.


Author:  rdmnks [ Tue May 29, 2012 8:21 pm ]
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bikehikeskifish wrote:
The stick signs are made by one particular person and are placed at what this person has determined is the highest point, which may or may not be the official / recognized / documented / AMC WMG summit. (Define official summit, please ;) true summit, is perhaps more apropos.)

They are on many of the summits which are just off the trail. I won't say which ones since publicly doing so tends to get them removed.


Where does one find the official recognized documented AMC summit info? I just wander on the summit until I've stood on all the obvious high points when there is no sign or cairn. I like it when there are signs. Makes for a good picture spot.

Author:  bikehikeskifish [ Tue May 29, 2012 8:45 pm ]
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True summit is not ambiguous (it may not be obvious, however.) There are many peaks where the sign(s) and/or cairn is not on the highest point, nor on the official trail. The AMC does not require you to wander about the summit area stepping on every rock.

Recognized / Official summit is where the sign and/or cairn is. Documented would be as described in the WMG, and is good enough for most people, and for AMC credit. Cabot, for example, has a higher point than the 4180 summit sign, another 100-150' in the same direction as the trail (approach from the cabin.)

North Twin, clearly, goes up hill from the cairn to the viewpoint.

Willey has a cairn, but the woods behind it are higher.

The summit of Wildcat A is just off the trail.

Then, I am sure there are innocent mistakes, like Mount Tom (failure to continue around to the side with the Pemi view.)

I have not heard otherwise (yet) so the AMC still accepts the old/traditional summit for Owl's Head.


p.s. Only after several rounds am I fairly certain I have been to the TRUE SUMMIT of all 48, and mostly because I have found these stick signs, or hiked with people whose experience dwarfs mine.

Author:  Walrus [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:15 am ]
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bikehikeskifish wrote:
True summit is not ambiguous (

But I think S. Carter is ambiguous! I see 2 4420' contours with no spot elevation. If the only information considered for the 4k list are USGS maps, then both these lumps are potential summits, and I think very few people go to the SW knob.

Author:  bikehikeskifish [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:03 am ]
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I guess it is all semantics. I was attempting to distinguish the usage of the three terms I've commonly heard.

If we went out there with a water level, we could (likely) determine one of those lumps is higher and probably find the highest point on said lump, thus locating the true summit. It may or may not be the bump with the cairn, sign, benchmark, or as described in the WMG.


Author:  IQuest [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:11 am ]
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If two summit knobs were assumed to be different elevations by only inches, wouldn't a cairn that was 2 feet tall make that the "high point"? I know it's man made but it's still really only a rock on the side of the trail. (Like the boulder on N kinsman.) I know it's technicalities and I guess we could argue trees as well but I figured rocks are inanimate objects so I went with them.

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