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OG Rob
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Are there actual summit markers/signs/cairns on Mt Bond,Bond Cliff,West Bond, and Guyot?
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IQuest
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Cairns yes, signs no.
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Pucknuts61
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All are easily identified as the summit but now that you mention it, I've never seen a geo survey marker on them either.
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bikehikeskifish
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Bond has a USGS marker:
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JWP
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We sort of get accustomed to seeing the USGS markers, but many summits don't have them.
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krpayer
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Interesting (related) post by Karl over at "Live Free and Hike". I learned something new...
http://livefreeandhikenh.blogspot.com/2 ... r-ngs.html
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bikehikeskifish
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On the topic of signs, I believe only Cabot has an official US Forest Service summit sign. All other signs are either homemade (Zealand) or on private land (Moosilauke) or in a NH State Park (Washington). When the took down the signs on South and Middle Carter, the rationale was that they were not needed for navigation (one trail, no jct.) nor for resource protection, so rather than maintain them, there were removed. Many summits have junctions, which warrant a sign, but there just aren't many pure summit signs.
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OG Rob
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Thanks for the replies folks!
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IQuest
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bikehikeskifish wrote: On the topic of signs, I believe only Cabot has an official US Forest Service summit sign. All other signs are either homemade (Zealand) or on private land (Moosilauke) or in a NH State Park (Washington). When the took down the signs on South and Middle Carter, the rationale was that they were not needed for navigation (one trail, no jct.) nor for resource protection, so rather than maintain them, there were removed. Many summits have junctions, which warrant a sign, but there just aren't many pure summit signs.
Tim Cabot also has a homemade sign (a small wooden stick with name and elevation) several yards further north. The same goes for S Carter.
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heather1377
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IQuest wrote: bikehikeskifish wrote: On the topic of signs, I believe only Cabot has an official US Forest Service summit sign. All other signs are either homemade (Zealand) or on private land (Moosilauke) or in a NH State Park (Washington). When the took down the signs on South and Middle Carter, the rationale was that they were not needed for navigation (one trail, no jct.) nor for resource protection, so rather than maintain them, there were removed. Many summits have junctions, which warrant a sign, but there just aren't many pure summit signs.
Tim Cabot also has a homemade sign (a small wooden stick with name and elevation) several yards further north. The same goes for S Carter. I think the grid hikers put these there to mark the official summits. I have pics of them both but suck at uploading pics.
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bikehikeskifish
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The stick signs are made by one particular person and are placed at what this person has determined is the highest point, which may or may not be the official / recognized / documented / AMC WMG summit. (Define official summit, please  true summit, is perhaps more apropos.)
They are on many of the summits which are just off the trail. I won't say which ones since publicly doing so tends to get them removed.
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IQuest
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bikehikeskifish wrote: I won't say which ones since publicly doing so tends to get them removed.
Tim Sorry, I forgot. The first rule about summit signs/canisters, don't talk ablout summit signs/canisters. 
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heather1377 wrote: I think the grid hikers put these there to mark the official summits. I have pics of them both but suck at uploading pics. A lot of the signs were up before grid hiking became "vouge" and besides, some of them that are up there were made by a guy who I can assure you is no grid hiker. 
Brian
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HardcoreIdiot
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IQuest wrote: bikehikeskifish wrote: I won't say which ones since publicly doing so tends to get them removed.
Tim Sorry, I forgot. The first rule about summit signs/canisters, don't talk ablout summit signs/canisters. Summit signs ok. C word, bad.
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bikehikeskifish
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HardcoreIdiot wrote:
Summit signs ok. C word, bad.
Greg
Depends on the summit. Unofficial signs will be removed, often shortly after being posted. A certain officially trail-less 4K in the middle of the Pemi is famous for this. Canisters on the other hand seem to last a while, based on the log entries...  Even cairns in Wilderness are not safe.
Tim
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