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 Mt W-i-lley or W-I-lley 

W-i-lley or W-I-lley?
W-i-lley  79%  [ 11 ]
W-I-lley  21%  [ 3 ]
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 Mt W-i-lley or W-I-lley 
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Hard "G" and ee-oh I think.

And I think it's Carri (hard "g") in even though it's spelled gain and should sound like train.


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I think it's gee-ooh also. As I recall I was talking to the caretaker and I said guy-ot and he quickly and politely referred to it as gee-ooh.


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ghee-oh. Not a G like Go, gee like rhymes with key.

:D Nothing like grammer to get me going!

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Kathy wrote:
ghee-oh. Not a G like Go, gee like rhymes with key.


um, those are the same G sounds. Plus I have never heard anyone mess up the initial consonant. It is always a voiced velar stop, as in Go, Get, Got, Gaggle, Gas, etc. Never a voiced postalveolar affricate as in Jug, James, Gem, Generous, etc.

This is what I say: http://translate.google.com/#fr|fr|guyot (copypaste that whole URL because I can't get the link right)click on one of the "listen" buttons.)


The pronunciation differences are always in the vowels(a close front unrounded vowel [i] or the diphthong [ai], and either a mid back rounded vowel or an open mid back rounded vowel. Think "Goat" v. "Got") and whether or not the terminal "t" is pronounced.

If other people pronounce it even crazier ways I have not heard them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_stop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_pos ... _affricate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_back_rounded_vowel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_b ... nded_vowel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... c_Alphabet


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Kathy wrote:
ghee-oh. Not a G like Go, gee like rhymes with key.

:D Nothing like grammer to get me going!

So here a question for those of you who have better grammer than I, which is probably any of you. If when dealing with proper names that are not of English origins do the rules of grammer for the English language still apply? Just curious.


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Granite Guy wrote:
Kathy wrote:
ghee-oh. Not a G like Go, gee like rhymes with key.

:D Nothing like grammer to get me going!

So here a question for those of you who have better grammer than I, which is probably any of you. If when dealing with proper names that are not of English origins do the rules of grammer for the English language still apply? Just curious.


First of all, my bad on the G sound. Thanks to Walrus, an astute grammarian! :D

To address Granite Guy's question, my answer is no, unless one is ignorant. I know I know. Let he/she who has never mispronounced cast the first stone, or something along those lines. However, if you talk about words not of English origin following the rules of English grammer, we must look at the origins of the English rules. We are a bastardized language after all. But, this is an age old argument and one that has been addressed on this and other forums. Kancamagus? Umbagog? Tripoli?

Think of other words, not necessarily proper nouns; jicama, armadillo. And then there's the words that are english that are constantly mispronounced: realtor, jewelry.

I don't know where I'm going with this and ordinarily I'd get this far and just delete, but I'm going to press submit now.

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hatrick1073 wrote:
I think it's gee-ooh also. As I recall I was talking to the caretaker and I said guy-ot and he quickly and politely referred to it as gee-ooh.


That is how I have mostly heard it pronounced although I first called it Guy-yot. I believe the name is French.


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Guyot was Swiss so a French pronunciation would seem appropriate.

As for Willey, this was all over the news for months about 12 or 13 years ago. Remember the woman that Bill Clinton groped? Kathleen Willey? It was pronounced as "Will-ee" by ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. Spelled the same way seems like you'd say it the same way too.


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hatrick1073 wrote:
I think it's gee-ooh also. As I recall I was talking to the caretaker and I said guy-ot and he quickly and politely referred to it as gee-ooh.


I dunno what's "right" .... all I can say is whenever I've been there all I could say was .... G-e-e-e-e! .... O-o-o-hhhhh !

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I got a D in English Grammer when in School, do much better with composition/lit than grammer. I was always lousy with sentence structure. Kudos for Walrus and Kathy for trying to set us poor souls straight!


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Guy, in French, is pronounced Gee (as in the "g" like Gas, and the "e" as in "me".) Thus, as a Frenchy, I always pronounced it Gee-oh.

But my caveat that I have been endlessly proclaiming applies here as well....pronounce it however the hell you want, I know what your talking about and you know what I am too.

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\pronounce it however the hell you want, I know what your talking about and you know what I am too.

Cool, I always wanted to say it as Un-kuh-noun Poned Pee-ack. :D

Wait, no one knows what I'm talking about most of the time anyway...

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New Hampshire wrote:
\pronounce it however the hell you want, I know what your talking about and you know what I am too.

Cool, I always wanted to say it as Un-kuh-noun Poned Pee-ack. :D

Wait, no one knows what I'm talking about most of the time anyway...


Heh heh, nice but your late to the joke. My friend Bob (another Bob, not ours) has been calling it "un-ka-known" for years. He also amusingly calls his phone a "Kell-phone" :lol: .

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Techum-seh or Techum-see?
Moosilauk or Moosilauk-ee?


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Im with Mojo on this one. We have had extensive discussions on this one. I pronounce it Moosilock, not lockee. And Tecumsa not Tecumsee. Anyone else?

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