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 To Grid or not to Grid?? That is the question! ;-) 
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Im tired just skimming it!
They're really tearing up the trails. Have run into them a few times on the trails, and see Chris' pics on FB. And while I skimmed Sue's blog, I couldn't find anything that indicated why or what they're doing. Anyone know?


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My guess is that she's trying to do a "single season grid", as in gridding in one calendar year.


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My guess is that she's trying to do a "single season grid", as in gridding in one calendar year.


I knew this would come eventually. Obviously it would have to be a trail runner or speed hiker to do it (or someone with absolutely no job and good stamina :lol: ) because of the very serious fitness level required. But I I really knew it was coming some day....

...And as I keep saying, yes hike your own hike and all, but I honestly think the grid goes against everything the "inventors" of the 4000 footer list intended. But the Djinn is out of the bottle, so why cry over spilled milk. 8)


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You may well be right.

I was a little surprised to hear that the 4K Committee was going to issue another patch. I seem to recall Eric telling me he was close to finishing the 4's in each season, but never thought they'd be a patch for that, as nearly anyone who hikes regularly is going to do that within a few years without even noticing it. Also, I thought they were trying to NOT recognize all the lists out there. Personally, I think one that they should honor with a patch is the 4's Over 70, particularly when it's done in winter. A surprising number have completed it all seasons, and a few have now done it in calendar winter.


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well the list of dates and all the 4ks over the past 4 months does hint at that. . . .

cause duh, that's what it is.

I met Jim Towle this past weekend and we chatted for a while(he mentioned he was on the inaugural Brutus BW and your name came up, Kevin) and he told me about Sue Johnston doing the single year grid. And if you look at her history clearly there is really no "try" or "attempt" about this. Short of catastrophe it's gonna get done.


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Looking at her history, she has accomplished quite a bit running ultras and hiking, quite an impressive feat.


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I met Jim Towle this past weekend and we chatted for a while(he mentioned he was on the inaugural Brutus BW and your name came up, Kevin) and he told me about Sue Johnston doing the single year grid.


Yes, Jim was there, along with Al D. and Georg F. I did it the following winter with Al and a couple of friends (and of course Mr. B.) and a few days later another friend noticed our tracks as he was descending and decided to follow them. He posted the hike on Views (at the time, the only site doing Trail Conditions) and a few people noticed it. I'd moved to CA by then, but a friend sent me an email whenever there was an online reference to the Brutus BW.

On a different note - after finding that route, I used it exclusively as a route to Owls Head until last fall when I used the slide. I was amazed at how much the slide had filled in with small trees so there's little open area any longer. It used to be like climbing the headwall of a 500' gravel pit, but the forest has regenerated itself.


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On a different note - after finding that route, I used it exclusively as a route to Owls Head until last fall when I used the slide. I was amazed at how much the slide had filled in with small trees so there's little open area any longer. It used to be like climbing the headwall of a 500' gravel pit, but the forest has regenerated itself.

I like climbing the slide, but have managed to wrench a knee both times I've descended said slide. So I tend to prefer to ascend the slide and descend the Brutus 'Whack now. Just did that a couple weeks ago in fact. It's a nice route you guys found back when ;)

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I know next to nothing about the BB. Is it a herd path yet? Do you need a GPS for it, or does a compass bearing work? I'd like to try it sometime but would like to know what I'm getting into.


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I know next to nothing about the BB. Is it a herd path yet? Do you need a GPS for it, or does a compass bearing work? I'd like to try it sometime but would like to know what I'm getting into.

It's getting pretty close to a herd path, and definitely is for a good chunk. If you are going down, it is pretty hard to mess up, follow the herd path from the "big rock" as it travels gradually downhill, it peters out near a ravine, but keep heading towards the ravine and you pick up the skidder road through the birches that follows the edge of it. Which takes you down to the Lincoln Brook Trail just above the crossing ~1/4-mile South of the slide path. Heading up, you need to find the start of it, but then it is mostly the reverse: follow the skidder road, as it nears the head of the ravine/birch glades, hook a left uphill and slab towards ~3100' where the big rock is. In winter, it is usually tracked out (though the exact route varies) unless it has snowed recently.

A pic (click to enlarge) of the route, which took the "Black Pond Bushwhack" on the way out, the slide up, Brutus down (lower portion of upper loop), and the main trails back to LinWood:

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