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 Cabot, Liberty, Flume 
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 Cabot, Liberty, Flume
With warm weather, low winds and plenty of sun I knew I had to make the most of it. Initially I planned to head to the Presidentials (of course!) but due to time constraints I stopped by the Flume visitor's center and headed up the Flume Slide Trail instead.

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I just want to say that I like this trail. A lot. I like how steep it is. I like how it demands attention. I like how rugged it is. I followed a few boot prints up the trail but didn't see anyone on the FST itself. I decided to throw the microspikes on when I saw this:
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Once I got those on, it was smooth sailing. I made good, steady progress up the trail, but ended up being an hour behind my target pace. I need to get out more often! I love the summit of Flume. The cliffs and slides are fantastic. One of these times I'm going to have to actually climb up the slide proper. I saw someone posted pictures heading down it. There were good views into the Pemi:
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More enticing slides.

And of Scar Ridge (I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong):
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Those slides look inviting, too.

And Garfield:
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Has anyone heard of folks climbing those cliffs?

After a little bit of time here I headed on over to Liberty. There were two guys here, relaxing in the warm sun. Wind was probably about 5 mph. I didn't really chat with them but it seemed like they were staying to watch the sunset. Sadly, I could not and so I headed back down to the car.
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Although these weren't new trails for me I do like this loop a lot. If 93 wasn't cut right through the notch it would probably end up being one of my favorite places.

At the junction with the Flume Slide Trail I met up with a man and (I imagine) his two sons who were inquiring about where the trail went. Thankfully they were on their way out of the woods and looked to be prepared to be hiking in the dark, if need be.


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Ha. I forgot Cabot.

I hit Cabot from the Mill Brook Road trailhead. This is a fun little dirt road to drive on. My VW Jetta TDI handled it just fine (no snow tires yet, either. nor would they have been necessary though they might have helped in some of the muddier sections). The Unknown Pond Trail from this side is pretty wet. There are lots of muddy sections down low, but once you start gaining elevation it's a pretty nice hike. From TH to the ridge you are surrounded in a white birch forest:
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The ridge walk was nice, if not a bit roller-coaster-y with a number of ups and downs. I tagged Cabot and spent a little time searching for the summit pin but was unsuccessful. Another time.
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The hike itself was pretty uneventful. I wanted to get The Horn but couldn't quite swing it with timing (I can't say I enjoy driving at night - the moose scare me) so that will just have to wait for another time. And another list.

I mostly wanted to post this so I could inform people the lower section of the trail is wet - I would advise waiting for it to freeze over. Or bring gaiters and good boots.


Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:31 am
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Great shots loganmr :shock:

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Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:47 pm
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Couple of nice hikes there. I also skipped out on my way by the Horn as my knee had had enough that particular day with just Cabot and the Bulge. Nice trail though. What kind of traction did you use going up and icy FST?? That things rugged even in the best conditions. Must have been a near ice climb if the whole thing looked like that pic! :shock:


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I haven't heard of anyone actually going out to Garfield to climb, but Mountain Project knows of at least one route:

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/garfield-crag/106497457

I figure that if you can find a cliff somewhere, someone's almost certainly climbed it.

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Thanks for the replies, all.

Keyz56 wrote:
Great shots loganmr :Shocked:

I love this board! I get to see stuff that I could never do.
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I'm sure with a few more hikes and some time you could do both of these. You're out quite a bit.


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...snip/ What kind of traction did you use going up and icy FST?? That things rugged even in the best conditions. Must have been a near ice climb if the whole thing looked like that pic! :shock:

i just used microspikes. I've used crampons on the FST before but I don't currently have them where I'm living (I need to make a trip over to my storage unit). They worked just fine. I just got them last winter and the microspikes work great for about 90% of what I do in the Whites. The only time I want my crampons is if I'm doing something really steep or, of course, actually climbing. I could bring crampons for pretty much any slide. Later in the season it's what I'd want for this, I think. Though I would definitely have the microspikes and try those first.

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I haven't heard of anyone actually going out to Garfield to climb, but Mountain Project knows of at least one route:

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/garfie ... /106497457

I figure that if you can find a cliff somewhere, someone's almost certainly climbed it.

Awesome, thanks. Yeah, I believe everything in the Whites has been climbed. There are some pretty adventurous people on this board so I thought I'd just ask first. Thanks for finding that. I may just have to take a trip out there to take a look at it.


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loganmr wrote:
Thanks for the replies, all.

Keyz56 wrote:
Great shots loganmr :Shocked:

I love this board! I get to see stuff that I could never do.
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I'm sure with a few more hikes and some time you could do both of these. You're out quite a bit.

I'll sure try it. I'm kind of limited to what I can do. (You guys know of my darn health issues by now. Only moderate/easy says the doc) But I WILL try….I'm not giving up without a fight first!

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You never know.... Look up Randy Pierce. When he first had mitochondrial disease he was in a wheel chair. He eventually walked again, and although he is blind, did the winter 48 with his guide dog, Quinn.


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Speaking of winter 48 4K list...Is the list done strictly by the 4 seasons or would doing Eisenhower Fri 11/29 be considered a winter hike? Sure seemed like a winter hike up there to me!


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Dunc4 wrote:
Speaking of winter 48 4K list...Is the list done strictly by the 4 seasons or would doing Eisenhower Fri 11/29 be considered a winter hike? Sure seemed like a winter hike up there to me!


Nope. Strictly based on the start/end times of the winter, which varies by year.
Q. What determines a winter ascent?

A. It is not simply a matter of dates on your household calendar (e.g. Dec 21 to March 20). The criteria established by Miriam Underhill, the inventor of the Winter Four Thousand Footer game, is more exact. Trips must begin after the hour and minute of the beginning of winter (winter solstice), and end before the hour and minute of the end of winter (spring equinox).


This year winter "begins" on December 21 at 12:11PM. So start off from a trailhead at 12:12PM, and be back by March 20 at 12:57PM.

This is of course only for the AMC's list. Like many here, I've certainly had many wintry days in November/April that exceeded what March brought to the table.

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Beckie and Prema wrote:
You never know.... Look up Randy Pierce. When he first had mitochondrial disease he was in a wheel chair. He eventually walked again, and although he is blind, did the winter 48 with his guide dog, Quinn.


Hi Beckie and Prema,

I plan on doing a lot from now on. I had some down time, but that's over. I do go out alone though, so I have to make sure what ever I do, is just a day trip. Also, thank you for telling me about, "Randy Pierce". I will check him out. Pretty inspiring, no doubt!

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MadMatt - That's what I thought, thanks for clarifying.


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